I guess I also wonder how everyone put such and effort to look only a few hours after being missing. This source close to the retired detective will be referred to as an LE source close to the investigation. On the other hand, a sample with only nine markers is absolutely not usable in court. If any of you want to sift through there and find some interesting stuff and post it here, please feel free to go for it. Delphi Murders /// Under the Bridge /// Part 1 /// 509 Part 1 of 3 www.TrueCrimeGarage.com Delphi, Indiana - February 13, 2017 - Middle school students Liberty German and Abigail Williams went for a hike on the Monon High Bridge Trail and were murdered. If you have saved images or conversations with the anthony_shots profile, please attach them to your email, the release said. She still hasnt been able to process this, assuming such a thing can ever be processed. Mr. Lindsay, Plenty of time to get numbers, etc. People really seem to take him at face value and think that because he is older, hes not capable of committing such a crime. I dont get internet drama but everyone seems to have stronger reactions both for and against when dp gets brought up than anyone else. He wasnt searching for his keys early on. Five years after the murders of Abby Williams and Libby German, the people of Delphi remain hopeful as the investigation for the killer continues. FSG, or DMC: Probably shouldnt use his real name, but hes on everybodys suspect list. One person wins and everyone else loses. Just a little while ago, New Cricket made a post in a true crime subreddit with a link to an article from Psychology Today about killers hiding in plain sight. Sorry for this poorly worded question. Unverified with Some Likelihood of Being True is a common qualification. February 13 is 2/13. It is certainly an interesting question, is it not? Shout out to anyone else who feels the same. Do you know why FSG was there at the trails; how long hed been there; how he got there; if he drove, what sort of car he drove and where he parked it. I think he already knew that they would be there. The girls would have also been subject to hypothermia?? He is one of the first and only witnesses in this case!!. I actually had written a letter to law enforcement that I failed to send, of which I was reading from. I realize unsolved would be a magnet for that but wow. I love you and the information youre releasing! Also how about this? Logan identifying him also speaks volumes considering how close they were all Kirts life, But Ed Bounds makes a really terrific point about why Logan was allowed to get out of jail & do his time at homeBasically saying thats incredibly rare but for the reason even more rare (horses need a better attendee? Why on Earth would the killer have a copy of an audio file from Libbys phone! Its a farce! Oh, one more thing, Jim. including this suspect and those related/associated with him, how many people know that there's something fishy (e.g. Number 6, an extremely controversial statement, was told to JM and then to us by a sheriff in a nearby county. Robert, I am wondering why no reply to my question? Id be surprised if he were in on this, but stranger things have happened. There are 244 comments there. He just wanted dirty pictures. Indiana State Police annou One of our team members talked to a detective in Kentucky a couple of years ago who told us about this expunged conviction. Something to think about. Would you be able to send me any sort of timeline map to help me with my own investigation? I'll be happy to represent Nic and the Captain if it happens. I guess this need continues into adulthood, but I like a little meat on my bone. not sure I agree . In addition, we may have more documents. 2/13, 2:13, 2-13. There was a rumor that he was "unaccounted for" for 45 minutes around the time of the murders. (WNDU) - It's been nearly five years since Abby Williams and Libby German went missing in Delphi, only to be found murdered the next day. His phone records could be subpoenaed. Lmao what am I reading here? They said, Hes just a decoy. But we dont know what that means. Heading to delphi pd and showing his exhaustive google search that shows his POI and then promptly laughed out of town. Indiana Cold Cases is similar and so is True Crime Jesus. C'mon now. My ideas, of course, are just speculative like those put forth by others. There are cases like this all over the country. Again, not saying that he did it. Otherwise why do we have religions? Its odd how there is that other photo of what looks like BG sitting on park bench. There are neighbors separated by acreage. 4-lane highway. I find it odd that he initially said it was his girlfriend then changed it to another female. I have been searching for the witnesses, DP. So the guys had a "Skip Jansen" on the pod to discuss a new suspect who is considered a suspect by LE but not named to the public. Some insist that this is merely a coincidence, but apparently LE do not think it is coincidental. What? If so, where and when? We know he had binoculars with him and he told the girls that he was a railroad policeman who had spotted them with binoculars. Thats why all the smoke and mirrors. Thank you. The judicial system likes to make sure that they get it right, if only to protect the due process rights of the accused. You said parent, so that gives me a clue. The motive is apparently lust murder motivated by sexual sadism combined with psychopathy, the classic formulation almost all serial killers have. DP's appearance is a cross between the two sketches. Libbys phone did not record him for 43 seconds. A family member was on their w Delphi murders cops slammed for keeping people 'in the dark' STAR LIVES ON Ray Liotta's daughter gives heartbreaking tribute to late dad at Walk of Fame Police still ask anyone with information about the case to submit a tip at abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com or 765-822-3535. I could be completely off base and change my mind tomorrow. You are promoting mob mentality here - after all not everyone youve named can be BG. Skip, thanks for responding to my question. Two young girls disappear off of an extraordinarily dangerous bridge in the middle of the day when they had plans to be picked up at a specific time? Have for a long time. And bringing in some random Redditor as your source? I have an official case document here in my hand. There was a rumor that he was "unaccounted for" for 45 minutes around the time of the murders. His brother looks very much like him (for example! They say they want to prevent false confessions. Why on Earth would anyone hang around near their vehicle for a full day just because they lost their keys? I am 100% behind you. Also note that LE are now acting like they think the young catfish did the crime, not the older BG. (WISH) News 8 has learned hundreds of tips have come in to authorities about a social media profile that may be connected to the 2017 Delphi murders of two teens. Ive looked this man over and I cant think of anyone less likely to commit this crime. These are real people stop meddling and just read. The catfish had been catfishing those girls for four months. Dont listen to those idiots on Reddit! Would you be willing to provide to me? He was very fearful and it really hit him hard how he got treated on that Reddit sub. We obtained this document via a public records request. That can only mean one thing. The voice was a good match, the clothes looked familiar, and the walk was dead on. Point is that he may have never had ceased offending. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. How bout taking it to heed, everyone? When I was young I would take off till late evening, and it was ok. Cops have told us more than they told any of those guardians. DAs require a very high standard of evidence to bring a homicide charge against someone. . Tell her I said HAVE A NICE DAY! I dont know if its in a garage, or the shed, perhaps? Not the people who called him distasteful. Until then, the enemies will keep attacking. Keep sleuthing, youre on point to what I see. But all theories must be judged against their competitors (Occams). We dont just look at the Delphi case here. I've been unsuccessful trying to figure it out. 13) Search Shell station footage in between 25 miles from crime scene throughout. The idea that a gag order was issued on this truck is an unconfirmed rumor. This seems to be one of the motives for the homicide. There is a rumor that LE has a partial DNA sample from an unknown male from one of the girls. Informacin detallada del sitio web y la empresa: ydelecnormandie.com, +33974562807 Installation et rnovation de rseau lectrique Pont-Audemerr, Lisieux, Le Havre-lectricit btiment,Installation lectrique | SARL YD ELEC NORMANDIE You do a great job! Education history: Primary and junior high unknown. Kelsi German has been cleared. It makes sense LE's statements in the 2019 press conference to the killer and also that when they asked what he thinks people will think when they find out and that he's hiding in plain sight. Also, you develop better sources. Its an understandable reaction, but theyre not pleasant to be around. Can not figure out what P stands for. What would be Mr X reason for leaving them there? Allen, 50, has been. @lemon @scarlet - I could not agree more. The only way they could know this is if the rumors about BG sending photos or video of the crime to Abbys phone after the crime occurred are true. Feel free to post about any unsolved case you think is interesting, high profile preferred. So, I recently became the latest target of Derek Godsey, with him using my name and photo to create fake accounts and specifically using my name in one of his recent videos, naming me as the murderer. Do we know who is posting as DP on fb ? I could know that some guy was a serial killer with 10 victims, and I dont have to go to the police. *The cops refer to cases of scumbag on scumbag shootings as No humans involved or public service killings. Not say that innocent people are killed and hurt in these cases and in some cases the target themselves is completely innocent. I will say that Libbys birth mother has also dealt with her loss by turning rageful. Yes. If he is a poser, which is the worst of the worst, and he has a transport company, that gives him carte blanche to move around in committing more crimes of this nature in different parts of the country as he travels. We just sent a couple of our investigators out to Delphi and surrounding towns. Almost zero. Abby and Libby, best friends in the eighth grade, were on a hiking. Not sure if its Tennessee, or Texas? In the documents we have, it is openly stated that BG abducted the girls at precisely 2:13 PM. Good time to put up road blocks and spike strips. I think that the killer was very familiar with someone in the family somewhere. DELPHI MURDERS Abby, 13, and Libby, 14, were found dead on Valentine's Day, 2017, a day after they vanished while hiking through the woods of the Historic Delphi trails. He was married to Becky Pattys sister at the time, and I believe it was about a week afterwards that she posted on social media her husband was a monster then deleted it. Never knew what the case was against this man other than that he had property near the bridge, and he and his wifes alibi of being out of the state traveling got a bit mangled. I see that you have replied to someone after mine, I am genuinely curious about this difference in graduation dates and would like to chat. This family member may maintain a different surname, by generation, but they are in fact, related! Must be a lot of people with that name. Stay tuned. However, the nature of these videos, means I rely on news outlets, speculations of investigators, journalists and family members. I like some of these guys. If this main POI isnt the bridge guy, he is definitely, without a doubt in my mind, involved in the murders of Abby and Libby in some form or fashion. BG must have fired his gun at some point in this crime. We park right at the front door. I doubt if its important. I think that the, "Down the hill," portion is distorted and that's why it sounds like an older man. I do not have a POI and I am in no way accusing anyone of being Bridge Guy. Merch: https://www.behindthecrimedoor.shop/Donate to My PayPal: https://paypal.me/behindthecrimedoorMy Website: https://behindthecrimedoor.webador.com/Buy Me A Tea: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/KristinTBTCD Community Guidelines. I would think a crime like this would occur and the perpetrator would be gone. It's really not that hard. Not sure of the significance here. He could have worn those boots over his jeans, and he wouldnt have gotten wet. Thats all you can do is refine the theories you have and check stuff off your list with the little info we have been given. A series of events where one girl screamed and then was quickly hit on the head with a blunt object, which we believe is a gun butt. No one else has come close to uncovering the amount and quality of information we have. The theory is that he was in on these murders for mercenary reasons, such as a malign desire to purchase Ron Logans land. We do not have a copy of that gag order, but we were told that one had been issued by the courts. Both investigators were women. I don't get why it's okay to bring up others as POI's but not this guy. We agree with that because we think they were sitting in his pocket the whole time! Isnt that logical. This Video is protected under copyright laws and violators will be prosecuted. Oh one more thing. We will discuss Ethics in reporting and other significant issues surrounding the case!Join Me Behind The Crime Door.\"Where Nothing Is Ever As It Seems!\" Super Thanks option is now available for those who appreciate the replays and want to support. I guess one thought about the cops searching for videos, and I dont know the specific wording but could it be they are looking for businesses or residences that have security cameras? Maybe we need to clear him a 243rd time then just to make sure! Long, 22 pages. BG himself is both the catfish young man and the older man who is the actual killer, so he is both sketches at once, obviously. Actually there are four suspects in this case and we are not naming any of them. The only places he differs is where he thinks that the police are wrong! Read free previews and reviews from booklovers. Can you spell out the name? The rumor is that his alibi is a Delphi police officer, Nate Allen, who committed suicide in December. I dont get it. Case in point - he said last time that his suspect was currently in jail. Murders. I am trying to be vague. Im a retired homicide detective I know what Im talking about. However, it is still not clear that Mr. X did this on his own or if someone helped him. We are joined in the Garage by Skip Jansen to discuss a new suspect and a theory that is catching fire! Deer kits have five knives, so we assume this one does too. In fact just based on what I have going on, researching this case is the absolute last thing I should be doing, but its drawing me in, and I cant help it. Furthermore, when people say that I, Robert Lindsay, have no sources, no documents, on and on, please keep something in mind. Recently moved to a small city nearby, possibly due to the heat of being a suspect in the crime. 14) For more, see video, though this is the gist of it. . We believe he did this because there may have been incriminating evidence in there. Sexual age orientation: Pedohebephilia, nonexclusive, AOA 8-14. The Narcotics detective did not work on the case. Or are they the same person? Little if any good information comes out of these places. Then he needed 2-3 months of therapy to work through this traumatic experience. Specific mention is made that the girls were abducted at exactly 2:13 PM. One of his many interesting hobbies was abducting and raping young women. Possibly works with kids. If DP went to talk to the police voluntarily, gave a witness statement, and then went home, that's not a situation that would require being mirandized, and if Skip was in LE he would know that. He only discusses facts. You can tell by many things gait, body shape, manner of walking, voice, etc. Enough is enough. Of course she did. One stepson, age 21 with the same first and last names. Tough shit. We now know who the FBI was looking into at first as a potential . Skip, thanks for responding to my question. Nevertheless, as you can see above, three things that we spotted in the crime scene photos have been verified by independent sources in the search party, so the fact that these are crime scene photos is now proven. Im from the UK too and once a crowd beat up a Paediatrician because they mistakenly thought it meant he was a paedophile. The only person who should be offended or feel threatened is BG because nothing was directed to anyone other then him. A number of strange objects were found around the Evansdale girls similar to the bizarre images decorating the Delphi crime scene. There would have to be some sort of connection to Mr. X for me to suspect him, and I dont see any as of yet other than odd behavior in searching for the girls. He raped women, not young teenage girls. No, POI'S will be discussed tonight. What makes even less sense to me are some of the things that they have said or at least have not challenged as not being factual. Theres only one parent. Clown. Will be posted by Saturday, March 11th. My background is nowhere near close to any qualifications for this. How do I do this? Wow, this is some incredible news. One problem was we went down the rabbit hole chasing the wrong guy for a couple of years. You are promoting mob mentality here - after all not everyone youve named can be BG. I think that the killer was very familiar with someone in the family somewhere. We wish people would stop talking about fingerprints. I find your blog very interesting. If you met me, you would laugh at them for saying that. Skip provides a notable suspect at the scene with a shady storyline, but we still are left in the dark about motive. Still, we do not support witch hunts here. That could be why they referred to BG as a creepy guy and still following us. Otherwise, and putting myself in their situation, if I saw someone at a distance on the bridge, I would have thought it was just another hiker and would not have been concerned that he was still following me. Frequently hunted deer on Rons land. If so, wouldnt the coroner be able to obtain DNA from the fetus? Try harder. Yes, I think Mr. X did this crime. The next day, News 8 broke the story connecting Kegan Kline to the account. Theres no evidence that Tony Kline has ever been a suspect or has ever been interviewed by the police. ***************Tip Line: 735-822-3535Email tips to: abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.comBehind The Crime Door Intro courtesy of:Graphics done by: Grizzmaticly Clever Music by: Techdeath Hippie https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyOgSong: The RequiemTip Line: 844-459-5786 Email tips to: abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com It is interesting that they are looking for precisely 43 seconds of audio. So Id just as soon stop looking at him as a suspect. I'll just have to get licensed in the jurisdiction where it happens. Its buried under settlement and underbrush. No redistribution of this content is authorized on any other YouTube content creator's channel or any other platforms at any time without express legal consent or permission from Behind The Crime Door. High Robert, It was all over by 3:30 PM. I believe that came from the leaked DE texts, and I would really like to know if that has ever been confirmed by anyone in LE. They simply dont have enough on him to get a conviction is all. Children: Two daughters, one ~22, another ~30. Its a dead end. Specifically, we are getting much of the the following information straight from the cops themselves. There will be no name calling from me. Thank you Mr. Lindsay for significant information on this terrible case. Notice that BG committed his crime with large knives or hatchets, his preferred weapon. Kline was not arrested until more than three years later. The main suspects DNA is found in the forest around the crime scene. Can we prove it? Skip- in one of the episodes you dropped DP brothers name Q A quick search shows that he was arrested and faces charges of child moderation charges (at least someone named QP from Delphi). It just opens himself up for litigation that proves he did it. It has been said there were dolls and stuffed animals around the girls. AP The trial for the suspect accused of murdering two girls in Delphi,. I didnt remove it. I am sure he was asked. Indiana authorities have released an affidavit that led to a 50-year-old married man being charged last month in connection with the 2017 Delphi murders, more than five years on from the double. I doubt it. Tony Kline is 65, 310 pounds! First, a pitch for support for this website and our sleuthing group: Our private group is clearly the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Internet by far and has been since it was founded four years ago in 2017. Important friendships: Very casual friend of Mike Patty, father of one of the girl victims. I found who mr. X is. Then there is always the question of his occupation. I want to be respectful to someone who is innocent until proven guilty also. How did BG get across that knee-high stream in the middle of winter without nearly getting hypothermia and needing a change of clothes? For a FREE month of listening go to http://stitcherpremium.com/truecrimegarage and use promo code GARAGEBeer Fund: https://truecrimegarage.com/home. There was some sort of a large object, apparently of toy, at the crime scene that was too large for BG to have had it with him on the bridge. Most of them are from the other sub. If you have heard about this case and wish to discuss it, feel free. 242? The sheriffs deputy did not work on the case. Shameful. He posted a photo on Facebook around three weeks to a month after the murders. They all go off and do their own work. You will see below where we regard certain things as Proven. This is not Mayberry but a potential Petri dish for psychopaths. A transcript of what they thought was being said was agreed on by this group. 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